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On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:08 am
by RaiderandBulldog
Two week away from this season being over. With another terrible team coming to town.

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Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:31 am
by RunOverByHubbard
We absolutely need this loss. I am not going to figure it out or research the exact effect, but one win takes away Mendoza and Moore and two wins takes away the best 2-3 defenders.

Doofus Davis and Carroll need to understand how united the fan base is on this and the historical importance of the situation. Dammit.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:36 am
by Opoponax50
I don't see how we lose this one. I watched the Giants play yesterday and it looked like a mirror image of us but maybe a hair worse. It was all there: bad running game, allowing the other team to convert on third and long, constant pressure on the QB, etc.

We'll also beat the Chiefs. We've got an illustrious track record of losing to backup QBs, but at this point it looks like KC doesn't even have a QB. That doesn't mean we can't lose, but pulling it off is going to be difficult. We end with four wins and another draft goes down the shitter.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:59 am
by RickRyb
After yesterday's games, the only way The Raiders lose to the Giants is if The Raiders just don't show up.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:14 am
by Oaktownonly
Opoponax50 wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:36 amWe end with four wins and another draft goes down the shitter.
If we end up with four wins I don't want to hear any Raider player complaining about losses next year. We are in a position to pick up a possible franchise QB. Winning now hurts us immensely.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:30 am
by DeathStar24
If the Raiders do beat KC, it'll probably 13-10 or some low scoring shit like that.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:48 am
by Vercingetorix
How can I send an Email to Mark, Brady, or anyone who has authority to instruct Skete to pull the starters who we need for next year? Why risk Bowers, Maxx, Jeanty getting injured? And God knows, we NEED Mendoza!

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:50 am
by Opoponax50
Oaktownonly wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:14 am If we end up with four wins I don't want to hear any Raider player complaining about losses next year. We are in a position to pick up a possible franchise QB. Winning now hurts us immensely.
I don't see how we end up losing the next two. The players and coaches are all trying to keep their jobs. No player is out there thinking they need to tank so that the team I'm not on anymore can be more successful in the future. It's not going to happen.

The one good thing about dropping out of the #1 or #2 position is that the staff will have to focus on who the BPA is with respect to need. We can likely draft the best OT in round 1 and in round 2, the best OG, etc.

The unfortunate reality of the NFL is that without a star QB you're not going anywhere. The next best thing is building a competitive team with a puncher's chance to get into the postseason and pull off an upset or two. That's the position we're in and will likely remain in.

Get rid of the privilege granting QBs the chickenshit right to throw the ball away like it was prior to 1993, and it would balance things out. But that's not going to happen, so all but 3-5 teams are relegated to shit status.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:59 am
by Sloth_Fratelli
RunOverByHubbard wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:31 am We absolutely need this loss. I am not going to figure it out or research the exact effect, but one win takes away Mendoza and Moore and two wins takes away the best 2-3 defenders.

Doofus Davis and Carroll need to understand how united the fan base is on this and the historical importance of the situation. Dammit.
Mark is too dumb to get anything. Why would Pete tank? If he wins 2, he gets to be HC next year(nobody will want this job), gets his kid another year of pay, then he will get to cut JPJ & he gets another year of his BFF Geno.

Maybe that seals the #1 overall pick in 2027

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:59 am
by DeathStar24
Raiders can't seem to string together 2 decent efforts in consecutive outings. I'm not worried about the Giants. KC could be dicey but this is the Raiders we're talking about. They can't f[raiders_icon]cking score.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:15 am
by Rabidraider
Geno knows two wins will keep the top two QBs away from the Raiders and give him another year as starter. Plus he want to save Pete's ass, since he owns him for the Raider gig and millions of dollars.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:26 am
by raidersince63
DeathStar24 wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:59 am Raiders can't seem to string together 2 decent efforts in consecutive outings. I'm not worried about the Giants. KC could be dicey but this is the Raiders we're talking about. They can't fcking score.
Yeah, I'm just not ready to get my pompoms out of the closet, based on 1 good showing by the Raiders or 1 bad showing by the Texans, because it could simply be an outlier.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:51 am
by RunOverByHubbard
This is what we should do: hold out Bowers, Jeanty, and Maxx. Period. They all have nicks and bruises. Without those three, we should be able to cross the finish line with the #2 pick. On the other hand, the league could penalize us by taking away the choice.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:57 am
by Attyla
RunOverByHubbard wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:51 am This is what we should do: hold out Bowers, Jeanty, and Maxx. Period. They all have nicks and bruises. Without those three, we should be able to cross the finish line with the #2 pick. On the other hand, the league could penalize us by taking away the choice.
yep, league frowns at intentional tanking

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:10 am
by Viper
Opoponax50 wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:50 am I don't see how we end up losing the next two. The players and coaches are all trying to keep their jobs. No player is out there thinking they need to tank so that the team I'm not on anymore can be more successful in the future. It's not going to happen.

The one good thing about dropping out of the #1 or #2 position is that the staff will have to focus on who the BPA is with respect to need. We can likely draft the best OT in round 1 and in round 2, the best OG, etc.

The unfortunate reality of the NFL is that without a star QB you're not going anywhere. The next best thing is building a competitive team with a puncher's chance to get into the postseason and pull off an upset or two. That's the position we're in and will likely remain in.

Get rid of the privilege granting QBs the chickenshit right to throw the ball away like it was prior to 1993, and it would balance things out. But that's not going to happen, so all but 3-5 teams are relegated to shit status.
Totally agree but if we end up winning one or both it would not shock me even a little if they then give away much needed draft capital to move up to what is very reachable.
The number one pick.

Re: On to the Giants

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:14 am
by DeathStar24
Viper wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:10 am Totally agree but if we end up winning one or both it would not shock me even a little if they then give away much needed draft capital to move up to what is very reachable.
The number one pick.
I sure hope not. This team will be bad next year and they can't afford to be giving away first round picks.