Wilkins - Another surgery?

[Willmark]

Has this been verified anywhere else?

https://x.com/mitchellrenz365/status/19 ... 62546?s=46

[Attyla]

[quote=Sold My Soul post_id=1290970]Yeah, Brady has all the connections. Raiders would be f[raiders_icon]cked without him.[/quote]We shall see on that. I am betting on his football IQ and I also know even the brightest players fail once their careers are over. But while guys like Magic failed as coaches, they can find success elsewhere. Brady might fail as an exec, but Dufus has set the bar so low even failure could be viewed as an improvement.

[raider_kin]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1290984]We shall see on that. I am betting on his football IQ and I also know even the brightest players fail once their careers are over. But while guys like Magic failed as coaches, they can find success elsewhere. Brady might fail as an exec, but Dufus has set the bar so low even failure could be viewed as an improvement.[/quote]I think Brady will get an A+ for his contributions, even if his only contribution is keeping Mark away from football decisions.

[Attyla]

[quote=raider_kin post_id=1290985]I think Brady will get an A+ for his contributions, even if his only contribution is keeping Mark away from football decisions.[/quote]Mark seems to get a lot of credit for things he may or may not have earned. Brady on the other hand? I have yet to see him fail at anything. Until he falls on his face, the benefit of the doubt goes his way. At the very least, making him more the face of the franchise and diminishing Mark's impact on the team could only be viewed as changes that might be in the right direction. We shall see over time.

I get it that Brady took our championship away from us in some people's eyes. Sour grapes are hard to overcome. But none of what happened late in that game were Brady's fault or even the Patriots fault. Blame the refs if you want, Blame Davis's reputation as one of the most difficult people in all of sports if you want. But blaming the guy who was just the QB of a team who was actually heading toward the sidelines with his head hanging low? I never blamed him. Now, a case for our head coach as the primary person responsible for that outcome? I could make that case easily.

[Dr Death]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1290987]Mark seems to get a lot of credit for things he may or may not have earned. Brady on the other hand? I have yet to see him fail at anything. Until he falls on his face, the benefit of the doubt goes his way. At the very least, making him more the face of the franchise and diminishing Mark's impact on the team could only be viewed as changes that might be in the right direction. We shall see over time.

I get it that Brady took our championship away from us in some people's eyes. Sour grapes are hard to overcome. But none of what happened late in that game were Brady's fault or even the Patriots fault. Blame the refs if you want, Blame Davis's reputation as one of the most difficult people in all of sports if you want. But blaming the guy who was just the QB of a team who was actually heading toward the sidelines with his head hanging low? I never blamed him. Now, a case for our head coach as the primary person responsible for that outcome? I could make that case easily.[/quote]Brady didn't take away anything. That was all on Coleman. Even at that.... the Raiders should have won the game. They shit the bed when it counted.

[SkullCrusher]

[quote=Dr Death post_id=1290989]Brady didn't take away anything. That was all on Coleman. Even at that.... the Raiders should have won the game. They shit the bed when it counted.[/quote]Raiders made the play and recovered a fumble when it counted, were robbed and did themselves no favors after.

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

[quote=Dr Death post_id=1290989]Brady didn't take away anything. That was all on Coleman. Even at that.... the Raiders should have won the game. They shit the bed when it counted.[/quote]That game was ours if Gruden didn't pussy out and go ultra conservative. We could have buried them earlier and nobody would remember the tuck

[Sold My Soul]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1290984]We shall see on that. I am betting on his football IQ and I also know even the brightest players fail once their careers are over. But while guys like Magic failed as coaches, they can find success elsewhere. Brady might fail as an exec, but Dufus has set the bar so low even failure could be viewed as an improvement.[/quote]Forgot to put one of these after my post. You know me, not a big Brady fan player or owner.

[Attyla]

[quote=Dr Death post_id=1290989]Brady didn't take away anything. That was all on Coleman. Even at that.... the Raiders should have won the game. They shit the bed when it counted.[/quote]Yep. Blaming Brady would be like blaming the chicken for the shell fragment in my eggs

[RI RAIDER]

[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1290991]That game was ours if Gruden didn't pussy out and go ultra conservative. We could have buried them earlier and nobody would remember the tuck[/quote]This. I was at the game and the stadium was emptying fast and furious. Gruden was a HORRIBLE game manager. Unfortunately for us, we had 2 more shitbums (McDouche and AP) who were even worse in that department.

[RunOverByHubbard]

What was the injury to Brady's foot again? I mean Wilkins...

[16 to 88]

[quote=Dr Death post_id=1290989]Brady didn't take away anything. That was all on Coleman. Even at that.... the Raiders should have won the game. They shit the bed when it counted.[/quote]Revisionist history.

They fumbled the ball, we recovered, game over. The rule was there had to be indisputable evidence to overturn the original call on the field which was a fumble. There was nothing disputable about it unless you wan't to argue he was going to make a pass with two hands. The defense we ran on that particular play at that moment was the right call. Nobody was open, he was looking to pass, brought the ball back down, put both hands on it... fumble.

We didn't shit the bed when it counted, we made the right call and got a fumble! THEY forced us back on the field to make us stop them again. How many times do we need to stop a team before they finally stop handing the ball back to them??? Once, twice, three times? Do I hear a four? The officiating in the NFL stinks in two ways, one because they suck and two because they are also bias/shady.

See my avatar.

[Dr Death]

[quote=16 to 88 post_id=1291000]Revisionist history.

They fumbled the ball, we recovered, game over. The rule was there had to be indisputable evidence to overturn the original call on the field which was a fumble. There was nothing disputable about it unless you wan't to argue he was going to make a pass with two hands. The defense we ran on that particular play at that moment was the right call. Nobody was open, he was looking to pass, brought the ball back down, put both hands on it... fumble.

We didn't shit the bed when it counted, we made the right call and got a fumble! They forced us back on the field to stop them again. How many times do we need to stop a team before they finally stop handing the ball back to them??? The officiating in the NFL stinks in two ways, one because they suck and two because they are also bias/shady.

See my avatar.[/quote]I didn't say it wasn't a fumble.... and that we didn't recover it. I said Brady had nothing to do with how it went down. That was Coleman's doing. I understand how bad it feels, but that's just the truth of it. I'm still more pissed off over the Imaculate Deception.

[Opoponax50]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1290949]I will still take Brady over some message board warrior.[/quote]That's the best you've got?

I say I'm skeptical and you insult me.

Man, f[raiders_icon]ck you.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

“Aaahh”, Watson said. “So it was the lack of drama that drove them mad”.

[16 to 88]

[quote=Dr Death post_id=1291001]I didn't say it wasn't a fumble.... and that we didn't recover it. I said Brady had nothing to do with how it went down. That was Coleman's doing. I understand how bad it feels, but that's just the truth of it. I'm still more pissed off over the Imaculate Deception. [/quote]It was in response to what you tagged on at the end

"Even at that.... the Raiders should have won the game. They shit the bed when it counted".

Couldn't count how many times I have seen this suggested. We made a great defensive stance, made the perfect call, they fumbled, game over. Nope... here's the ball back. Make the raiders do it again.