The Offensive Line Coach Thread

[Willmark]

As we just saw with the departure of Brennan Caroll under the latest Raiders regime- Offensive Line coach is critical. So much so, I’d argue after the OC (or in our case HC/OC combo) it’s the most crucial position coach on the offensive staff. (Maybe QB Coach too)

We can’t get Bill Callahan and Dante Scarneccia (formerly of NE) is retired. Who else is out there? Quick aside- Dante pieced together offensive lines in NE with spit, glue, rubber bands and duct tape and they won Super Bowls.

I’m also off the mindset this hire might matter even more than DC. We’ve got a lot of pieces for the offensive line that I believe were simply used or not instructed on why they wanted them to do last year.

We’re not talking best line ever in the history of the game, but I think we can take a huge step forward from what we saw last year with the right coach.

[KillerRaider30]

As long as you say "I think" instead of making it seem like you "know", you' might get better and more collaborative discussion.

My preference is to give JPJ and Rogers the opportunity to win starting jobs. Thus I'd prefer to pay either Linderbaum or McGovern to hold down the center spot.

I'd also like to add one vet guard for competition. I like Spytek and Brady leading the organization but the addition of Cappa was a massive disappointment at a big overpay...... and it turned out about how most predicted. I would look at some older guards to compete and hope for the young guys to win the job, but not a complete disappointment like Cappa.

RT is tougher. Eluemunor is interesting to me, and I don't think he gets too much money at his age. Grant might slot in there, but it's way too tough to project that.

Honestly the biggest factor is that Dennison knows what he's doing. That's huge. Who knows, maybe he does something positive with Glaze (although he seems like he may be a better guard).

Like everyone saying Pete will get fired at the end of the year?
But going further i will include, I think the Raidere will... and im done bickering.
Sorry Attyla.

[Attyla]

Like everyone saying Pete will get fired at the end of the year?
But going further i will include, I think the Raidere will... and im done bickering.
Sorry Attyla.

No worries, for what it is worth, I can be a dick at times. Not chucker level but, well, Canada lost so he gets a pass this week.

[KillerRaider30]

No worries, for what it is worth, I can be a dick at times. Not chucker level but, well, Canada lost so he gets a pass this week.

and fa cant come soon enough for me making me cranky.

[Attyla]

and fa cant come soon enough for me making me cranky.

We can agree on that. I am beat waiting for some kind of movement. Here is to a new regime and renewed hope.

[NoThanksSir]

As long as you say "I think" instead of making it seem like you "know", you' might get better and more collaborative discussion.

My preference is to give JPJ and Rogers the opportunity to win starting jobs. Thus I'd prefer to pay either Linderbaum or McGovern to hold down the center spot.

I'd also like to add one vet guard for competition. I like Spytek and Brady leading the organization but the addition of Cappa was a massive disappointment at a big overpay...... and it turned out about how most predicted. I would look at some older guards to compete and hope for the young guys to win the job, but not a complete disappointment like Cappa.

RT is tougher. Eluemunor is interesting to me, and I don't think he gets too much money at his age. Grant might slot in there, but it's way too tough to project that.

Honestly the biggest factor is that Dennison knows what he's doing. That's huge. Who knows, maybe he does something positive with Glaze (although he seems like he may be a better guard).

Chucker out here teaching philosophy 101. Lol wish some folks had this type of knowledge onboarded before coming here. It's wild folks still don't understand the purpose of a message board.

[Coach dd 11]

Still would love to see and hear others opinions and thoughts as to how to build it, truly build an OL 2 deep. Now, to be honest this could be years in the making but in this case you just have this years FA and draft....come on guys, what do you got?

[Xramfan]

No worries, for what it is worth, I can be a dick at times. Not chucker level but, well, Canada lost so he gets a pass this week.

He will need much longer than a week I thinks.

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[Attyla]

He will need much longer than a week I thinks.

I am not a nationalist most the time, I mean I love where I live and the people of my country. I also admire people around the world and when I have traveled outside my country I love learning about the cultures I experience. I have been to Canada and it is a vast and beautiful country.

But when it comes to the Olympics? Kicking Canada's ass on the ice with our girls was fun as hell. Kicking it on the ice with our guys? Deeply satisfying.
But I miss this guy, he sang our National Anthem better than anyone ever....eat shit Whitney

[WNYRAIDER]

As long as you say "I think" instead of making it seem like you "know", you' might get better and more collaborative discussion.

My preference is to give JPJ and Rogers the opportunity to win starting jobs. Thus I'd prefer to pay either Linderbaum or McGovern to hold down the center spot.

I'd also like to add one vet guard for competition. I like Spytek and Brady leading the organization but the addition of Cappa was a massive disappointment at a big overpay...... and it turned out about how most predicted. I would look at some older guards to compete and hope for the young guys to win the job, but not a complete disappointment like Cappa.

RT is tougher. Eluemunor is interesting to me, and I don't think he gets too much money at his age. Grant might slot in there, but it's way too tough to project that.

Honestly the biggest factor is that Dennison knows what he's doing. That's huge. Who knows, maybe he does something positive with Glaze (although he seems like he may be a better guard).

...its a shame that jpj's injury issues have continued, as if not for those, I would wonder if he couldn't be 'coached up' on the what have been suggested to be his other challenges in handling the center position at this level.
....that could have been huge at that position for years to come.....

[GoodTimeCharlie]

...its a shame that jpj's injury issues have continued, as if not for those, I would wonder if he couldn't be 'coached up' on the what have been suggested to be his other challenges in handling the center position at this level.
....that could have been huge at that position for years to come.....

From the interviews I’ve seen/read with JPJ, there’s no “coaching up” without a brain-transplant.

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

Supposedly, JPJ's problem at center is line calls: he can't process everything fast enough to make them in time. And line calls are literally part of the job if you're an NFL center.

It's like a baseball catcher who gets the yips when he throws the ball back to the pitcher, or an NBA point guard who can't hit a long jump shot. You might be able to do everything else well, but if you can't do this one seemingly minor thing, you simply cannot do this job. You just can't.

[WNYRAIDER]

From the interviews I’ve seen/read with JPJ, there’s no “coaching up” without a brain-transplant.

...sorry to hear that, as more in general, I hold nothing against anyone on our offense last year, after the chipster and pete's kid disaster......

....and on a side note, I am drinking my black coffee out of my other raider cup this morning.....

[WNYRAIDER]

Supposedly, JPJ's problem at center is line calls: he can't process everything fast enough to make them in time. And line calls are literally part of the job if you're an NFL center.

It's like a baseball catcher who gets the yips when he throws the ball back to the pitcher, or an NBA point guard who can't hit a long jump shot. You might be able to do everything else well, but if you can't do this one seemingly minor thing, you simply cannot do this job. You just can't.

...yeah, I wasn't aware of it having been a lumbering thought process thing, but if that is the case, that is a fatal flaw at that position.....

[BoKnows81]

As far as JPJ...

Injury excuse? Yes, no doubt. It's a concern.

Too dumb to play the position? Please. Miss me with that bullshit. We're basing this off what the last pathetic excuse of a staff said? Stop. Funny how he played well at center the year before and in college.

I'm ok with him playing guard bc of the injury concern at an important position but there's no doubt in my mind that he's a better center.

[chucker]

Supposedly, JPJ's problem at center is line calls: he can't process everything fast enough to make them in time. And line calls are literally part of the job if you're an NFL center.

It's like a baseball catcher who gets the yips when he throws the ball back to the pitcher, or an NBA point guard who can't hit a long jump shot. You might be able to do everything else well, but if you can't do this one seemingly minor thing, you simply cannot do this job. You just can't.

Plus Kubiak, when asked about what he wanted in offensive linemen, responded about the center and only said he wanted someone really smart who can set protections.

I think it's easy to assume that a Rimington winner can do everything required of a center, but I don't think there's any way for a Rimington voter (or PFF who is involved in the Rimington award) to evaluate the mental aspect of setting protections. They're evaluating whether a guy executed his blocking assignment, which I think we all believe JPJ does very well.