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Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:59 am
by Willmark
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:05 am
by Attyla
[quote=Raiderboy1966 post_id=1290591]Had we taken Jalen Carter we would not have needed Wilkins and also could have saved $100M. Big mistake.[/quote]he has not been the world beater some said he was.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:12 am
by FLORIDARAYDAH
[quote=Attyla post_id=1290594]he has not been the world beater some said he was.[/quote]And he landed in a perfect situation for him with a lot of teammates to keep him grounded.
The street racing aside he couldn't finish his private workout he was so out of shape. Seemed like a disaster in the making turning him loose in Vegas at that point in his life. A lot of teams passed on him that wouldn't have a few months earlier
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:28 am
by BoKnows81
[quote=Attyla post_id=1290594]he has not been the world beater some said he was.[/quote]Stop spewing your usual nonsense. Jalen Carter has been a top 5-7 DT since entering the league.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:42 am
by Raiderboy1966
[quote=Attyla post_id=1290594]he has not been the world beater some said he was.[/quote]Huh ? He’s probably the 5th best DT in the league already.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:10 pm
by raider_kin
[quote=Attyla post_id=1290594]he has not been the world beater some said he was.[/quote]He is part of a great line, just one piece surrounded by solid players. Don't think he would have moved the needle as much for us.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:16 pm
by BoKnows81
[quote=raider_kin post_id=1290598]He is part of a great line, just one piece surrounded by solid players. Don't think he would have moved the needle as much for us.[/quote]He's what makes that line great though. He's the best defensive player on the team and it isn't close. He should of been the pick for us at the time and that's undeniable. But that's in the past. Oh well.
Btw Maxx hasn't moved the needle for us either. But him and Carter together...
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:23 pm
by BoKnows81
[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1290595]And he landed in a perfect situation for him with a lot of teammates to keep him grounded.
The street racing aside he couldn't finish his private workout he was so out of shape. Seemed like a disaster in the making turning him loose in Vegas at that point in his life. A lot of teams passed on him that wouldn't have a few months earlier[/quote]A lot? Only 8 teams passed on him. Technically 7. And he should of went top 3.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:39 pm
by Xramfan
Oh cool. We are back on the “woulda coulda shoulda” train.
Bars are filled with drunks speaking these words over and over
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:06 pm
by FLORIDARAYDAH
[quote=BoKnows81 post_id=1290600]A lot? Only 8 teams passed on him. Technically 7. And he should of went top 3.[/quote]He was talked about going top 2. Dropping to 9 is a lot. But you know that
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:10 pm
by Attyla
[quote=BoKnows81 post_id=1290596]Stop spewing your usual nonsense. Jalen Carter has been a top 5-7 DT since entering the league.[/quote]since entering the league? Who is spewing nonsense? He played in parts of 16 games his rookie year but only had one start. His pass Pff was not top 5, only his run Pff. Just stop, you are not god of football knowledge
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:43 pm
by BoKnows81
[quote=Xramfan post_id=1290601]Oh cool. We are back on the “woulda coulda shoulda” train.
Bars are filled with drunks speaking these words over and over[/quote]Until this team starts winning, the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" will remain relevant. The Eagles passed on Justin Jefferson for Jalen Reagor and went to 2 super bowls after, winning one. Other teams can recover. Our blatant misses matter.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:45 pm
by BoKnows81
[quote=Attyla post_id=1290604]since entering the league? Who is spewing nonsense? He played in parts of 16 games his rookie year but only had one start. His pass Pff was not top 5, only his run Pff. Just stop, you are not god of football knowledge[/quote]You're about as credible as an oak tree. Stop. If you don't think Jalen Carter is and has been a top 5 DT in this league, go watch some more film outside of Raiderland.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:49 pm
by Hellbound
Lol @ arguing and trying to pass off opinion as fact
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:35 pm
by Dr Death
[quote=BoKnows81 post_id=1290607]You're about as credible as an oak tree. Stop. If you don't think Jalen Carter is and has been a top 5 DT in this league, go watch some more film outside of Raiderland.[/quote]I agree. I wanted him. But.... he had red flags, which is why we and others passed on him. It's understandable with us because of all the f[raiders_icon]cked up draft picks we have made for players with red flags.
Re: Wilkins - Another surgery?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:51 pm
by BoKnows81
[quote=Dr Death post_id=1290610]I agree. I wanted him. But.... he had red flags, which is why we and others passed on him. It's understandable with us because of all the f[raiders_icon]cked up draft picks we have made for players with red flags.[/quote]I gotta be honest. I can't trust that this team (at the time) passed on Jalen Carter bc of "red flags". I know there were reports of them maybe taking him off their board but I have not seen or heard of credible definitive proof that the Raiders passed on Jalen Carter bc of "red flags". Even with the Ruggs incident n all, I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt. That's what a terrible drafting, terrible decision making, losing franchise will do to you.