Raiders/Adams divorce - Deep Dive
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Raiders/Adams divorce - Deep Dive
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/ins ... jbz0b7vv3j
Pretty much paints Adams as a selfish and double-minded individual.
Also shows that the FO willingly put up with a lot of his bullshit.
Some takeaways:
Talking shit about Carr behind his back:
Adams had five receptions for 36 yards and one touchdown. He felt that his friend Derek Carr was not doing a good enough job getting him the ball, according to a team source, who told us that day, “Not a good look to be complaining about the guy you wanted to play with. Wish he would keep that between the two of them.”
The same source reiterated concerns after a Thursday night loss on Dec. 8, 2022. Yet, again, Adams questioned his quarterback after a performance in which he had only three receptions.
One team source told us, “Derek isn’t perfect, but that is your guy. Don’t talk about him behind his back; be his friend when he is around. People see that s--t.”
Hating on jakobi meyers:
It happened last season when he complained to the media about not getting enough targets. Wide receiver Jakobi Meyers got off to a hot start and threatened Adams’s place as the team’s No. 1 receiver. Adams’s frustration was not directly aimed at Meyers, but his frustrations were due to Meyers’s growing success. Adams commanded double teams, leaving Meyers in favorable situations. Either way, his public comments became a distraction, and the Raiders began force-feeding Adams with mixed results.
Playing the political game to try to get more influence in FO decision making:
A team source said of Adams, “I think he thought because of who he was, and maybe felt some type of way about speaking up for AP that he would have a bigger voice in adding players. Maybe like Aaron Rodgers’s role in New York, but that wasn’t happening.”
The article also states that he pounded the table for Luke getsy, I can only assume bc he thought he could get force fed the ball in that offense also
I don’t say this often about players, but this guy is a dirtbag. In my opinion of course.
Pretty much paints Adams as a selfish and double-minded individual.
Also shows that the FO willingly put up with a lot of his bullshit.
Some takeaways:
Talking shit about Carr behind his back:
Adams had five receptions for 36 yards and one touchdown. He felt that his friend Derek Carr was not doing a good enough job getting him the ball, according to a team source, who told us that day, “Not a good look to be complaining about the guy you wanted to play with. Wish he would keep that between the two of them.”
The same source reiterated concerns after a Thursday night loss on Dec. 8, 2022. Yet, again, Adams questioned his quarterback after a performance in which he had only three receptions.
One team source told us, “Derek isn’t perfect, but that is your guy. Don’t talk about him behind his back; be his friend when he is around. People see that s--t.”
Hating on jakobi meyers:
It happened last season when he complained to the media about not getting enough targets. Wide receiver Jakobi Meyers got off to a hot start and threatened Adams’s place as the team’s No. 1 receiver. Adams’s frustration was not directly aimed at Meyers, but his frustrations were due to Meyers’s growing success. Adams commanded double teams, leaving Meyers in favorable situations. Either way, his public comments became a distraction, and the Raiders began force-feeding Adams with mixed results.
Playing the political game to try to get more influence in FO decision making:
A team source said of Adams, “I think he thought because of who he was, and maybe felt some type of way about speaking up for AP that he would have a bigger voice in adding players. Maybe like Aaron Rodgers’s role in New York, but that wasn’t happening.”
The article also states that he pounded the table for Luke getsy, I can only assume bc he thought he could get force fed the ball in that offense also
I don’t say this often about players, but this guy is a dirtbag. In my opinion of course.
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[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1266151]And to end this sordid tale, Adams did not make the AP All-Pro First or Second teams, meaning our draft pick from the Jets will remain a third-rounder.
The last time we got a third-rounder in exchange for a disgruntled pass-catchers, it turned into Tre Tucker. Not bad.[/quote]To quote a former GM, “Third round picks are like stealing.”
The last time we got a third-rounder in exchange for a disgruntled pass-catchers, it turned into Tre Tucker. Not bad.[/quote]To quote a former GM, “Third round picks are like stealing.”
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[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1252281]https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/ins ... jbz0b7vv3j
Pretty much paints Adams as a selfish and double-minded individual.
Also shows that the FO willingly put up with a lot of his bullshit.
Some takeaways:
Talking shit about Carr behind his back:
Adams had five receptions for 36 yards and one touchdown. He felt that his friend Derek Carr was not doing a good enough job getting him the ball, according to a team source, who told us that day, “Not a good look to be complaining about the guy you wanted to play with. Wish he would keep that between the two of them.”
The same source reiterated concerns after a Thursday night loss on Dec. 8, 2022. Yet, again, Adams questioned his quarterback after a performance in which he had only three receptions.
One team source told us, “Derek isn’t perfect, but that is your guy. Don’t talk about him behind his back; be his friend when he is around. People see that s--t.”
Hating on jakobi meyers:
It happened last season when he complained to the media about not getting enough targets. Wide receiver Jakobi Meyers got off to a hot start and threatened Adams’s place as the team’s No. 1 receiver. Adams’s frustration was not directly aimed at Meyers, but his frustrations were due to Meyers’s growing success. Adams commanded double teams, leaving Meyers in favorable situations. Either way, his public comments became a distraction, and the Raiders began force-feeding Adams with mixed results.
Playing the political game to try to get more influence in FO decision making:
A team source said of Adams, “I think he thought because of who he was, and maybe felt some type of way about speaking up for AP that he would have a bigger voice in adding players. Maybe like Aaron Rodgers’s role in New York, but that wasn’t happening.”
The article also states that he pounded the table for Luke getsy, I can only assume bc he thought he could get force fed the ball in that offense also
I don’t say this often about players, but this guy is a dirtbag. In my opinion of course.[/quote]I was shrugging the whole way but the pounding the table for stankass Getsy is too much to accept.
I don't really care. I didn't want to get him anyway and it was definitely time to get out from under before Father Time lowered the boom.
The whole Adams premise was delusional.
Pretty much paints Adams as a selfish and double-minded individual.
Also shows that the FO willingly put up with a lot of his bullshit.
Some takeaways:
Talking shit about Carr behind his back:
Adams had five receptions for 36 yards and one touchdown. He felt that his friend Derek Carr was not doing a good enough job getting him the ball, according to a team source, who told us that day, “Not a good look to be complaining about the guy you wanted to play with. Wish he would keep that between the two of them.”
The same source reiterated concerns after a Thursday night loss on Dec. 8, 2022. Yet, again, Adams questioned his quarterback after a performance in which he had only three receptions.
One team source told us, “Derek isn’t perfect, but that is your guy. Don’t talk about him behind his back; be his friend when he is around. People see that s--t.”
Hating on jakobi meyers:
It happened last season when he complained to the media about not getting enough targets. Wide receiver Jakobi Meyers got off to a hot start and threatened Adams’s place as the team’s No. 1 receiver. Adams’s frustration was not directly aimed at Meyers, but his frustrations were due to Meyers’s growing success. Adams commanded double teams, leaving Meyers in favorable situations. Either way, his public comments became a distraction, and the Raiders began force-feeding Adams with mixed results.
Playing the political game to try to get more influence in FO decision making:
A team source said of Adams, “I think he thought because of who he was, and maybe felt some type of way about speaking up for AP that he would have a bigger voice in adding players. Maybe like Aaron Rodgers’s role in New York, but that wasn’t happening.”
The article also states that he pounded the table for Luke getsy, I can only assume bc he thought he could get force fed the ball in that offense also
I don’t say this often about players, but this guy is a dirtbag. In my opinion of course.[/quote]I was shrugging the whole way but the pounding the table for stankass Getsy is too much to accept.
I don't really care. I didn't want to get him anyway and it was definitely time to get out from under before Father Time lowered the boom.
The whole Adams premise was delusional.
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May we please close the chapter on being a crappy organization……
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That trades for big name WRs to please and appease casual football fans?
Moss.
AB
Davante.
I’ve never seen it work for us. I don’t want to hear in the future that that Justin Jefferson became available and we have draft capital available for him.
Build our trenches.
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That trades for big name WRs to please and appease casual football fans?
Moss.
AB
Davante.
I’ve never seen it work for us. I don’t want to hear in the future that that Justin Jefferson became available and we have draft capital available for him.
Build our trenches.
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[quote=Marzan post_id=1268089]What is it about the wide receiver position and divahood? No other position produces so many me-me selfish outspoken players[/quote]Remember that Hard Knocks from years ago where Chad Ochocinco just walked into the Dolphins coaches' room during a meeting, sat down like he owned the place, and was nonplussed when they politely asked him to leave?
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HesterLayes
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nobody cares about that dude.
hope they nail that 3rd and he becomes a star
hope they nail that 3rd and he becomes a star
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[quote=Be_Easy_25 post_id=1268070]May we please close the chapter on being a crappy organization……
……….
That trades for big name WRs to please and appease casual football fans?
Moss.
AB
Davante.
I’ve never seen it work for us. I don’t want to hear in the future that that Justin Jefferson became available and we have draft capital available for him.
Build our trenches.[/quote]Remember Javon Walker? He took home 21 million for 15 receptions.
……….
That trades for big name WRs to please and appease casual football fans?
Moss.
AB
Davante.
I’ve never seen it work for us. I don’t want to hear in the future that that Justin Jefferson became available and we have draft capital available for him.
Build our trenches.[/quote]Remember Javon Walker? He took home 21 million for 15 receptions.
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[quote=Be_Easy_25 post_id=1268070]May we please close the chapter on being a crappy organization……
……….
That trades for big name WRs to please and appease casual football fans?
Moss.
AB
Davante.
I’ve never seen it work for us. I don’t want to hear in the future that that Justin Jefferson became available and we have draft capital available for him.
Build our trenches.[/quote]I don't think the trades were to appease football fans. They were just bad football moves made by football people without a f[raiders_icon]cking clue (Al, of course had a clue for a long time, but those days were gone by the time he made the Moss deal).
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That trades for big name WRs to please and appease casual football fans?
Moss.
AB
Davante.
I’ve never seen it work for us. I don’t want to hear in the future that that Justin Jefferson became available and we have draft capital available for him.
Build our trenches.[/quote]I don't think the trades were to appease football fans. They were just bad football moves made by football people without a f[raiders_icon]cking clue (Al, of course had a clue for a long time, but those days were gone by the time he made the Moss deal).
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[quote=ToastPatterson post_id=1268274]Remember Javon Walker? He took home 21 million for 15 receptions.[/quote]Can we not?
To his credit, his body was toast - that was 100% AL losing his mind.
To his credit, his body was toast - that was 100% AL losing his mind.
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I'm beginning to think diva WR's aren't worth the drama. The Chiefs have been winning Super Bowls with middling WR's as did the Patriots for the majority of of their reign and to me it's more about having an elite QB. The Bills seem to have got better since moving on from Diggs. You see guys like Adams being all about himself and then Hill not even going into a game that had playoff implications and you just have to think about what the other players on the roster think because it's a team sport after all. It seems it's getting worse and worse as several WR's this season refused to go into games and it's starting to become a thing and not a good thing at all.
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[quote=heavyD post_id=1268544]I'm beginning to think diva WR's aren't worth the drama. The Chiefs have been winning Super Bowls with middling WR's as did the Patriots for the majority of of their reign and to me it's more about having an elite QB. The Bills seem to have got better since moving on from Diggs. You see guys like Adams being all about himself and then Hill not even going into a game that had playoff implications and you just have to think about what the other players on the roster think because it's a team sport after all.[/quote]90% of WRs are divas though
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[quote=heavyD post_id=1268547]I don't think so. Plenty quietly go about their business.[/quote]Yea, until they don't get the ball. The reality is most of them aren't team players. Most, not all.
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Postscript: we didn't.HesterLayes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:06 am nobody cares about that dude.
hope they nail that 3rd and he becomes a star
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