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OC/DC/ST Coordinators (Chip Kelly OC, Patrick Graham DC)
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:22 am
by haji81872
Do we need an OC/DC thread or do we just keep that talk in the Pete Carrol thread?
If we don't please delete this.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:32 am
by Marzan
[quote=JRaider17 post_id=1272351]Considering we interviewed Bevell a few days ago, I'm holding out hope our top choice is someone else.[/quote] Coordinator hires are also covered by the Rooney rule so until we’ve interviewed a couple of minority candidates we’re not able to hire anyone. I’ve read that QB coaches are also covered but I don’t know about the specifics of that
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:43 am
by Raidernation1979
[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1272330]Remember that it's Pete Carroll's standing policy (or least it was with the Seahawks) to always let an assistant leave for a better position with another team. It's one way he has of getting in-demand assistants: They know if they get a coordinator offer down the line, he won't prevent them from leaving.
We blocked Leonard from leaving this offseason, but if he's offered a DC position with another team in a year, it'll be Next Assistant Up (unle$$ we convince him to $tay u$ing other mean$).[/quote]You can’t block an assistant going to coordinator.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:18 am
by Corleone
[quote=Raidernation1979 post_id=1272425]You can’t block an assistant going to coordinator.[/quote]If the coach is under contract, they can deny the interview, which would mean tampering likely occurred if they got the job. I remember specifically when Dennis Allen got the HC job in Oakland, several of the candidates he wanted for OC/DC were blocked, he had a helluva time assembling staff.
Edit- this no longer seems to be the case
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:32 am
by chucker
The rules changed a few years ago and teams can no longer block a coach who isn't a coordinator from taking an interview for a coordinator position, or from taking a coordinator job.
As you might expect, the Bucs aren't going to help Jacksonville or Coen:
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 6153754982
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:34 am
by Viper
[quote=DanKD post_id=1272404]Spillane, Koonce and Moehrig are the biggest three we need back. And Adam butler is supposedly a good locker room guy.
Hobbs gets hurt a lot and may not be worth the price. Te others are replaceable[/quote]I believe Chaisson is also a FA in March. Don’t think you can ever have too many quality pass rushers and I’d try and keep him at a reasonable cost. Might be a case where, after seeing some success with us this last season, other teams start beating that drum, too.
I’d be careful what the offer to him would be so as not to tie us to it for long term if he reverts. Signing bonus with heavy incentives. Make him bet on himself.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:45 am
by chucker
Chaisson might see his best opportunity to cement future value as being with the team where he finally fulfilled some of his potential. Especially with the same DC and Dline coach returning.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:29 am
by Raidernation1979
[quote=Corleone post_id=1272427]If the coach is under contract, they can deny the interview, which would mean tampering likely occurred if they got the job. I remember specifically when Dennis Allen got the HC job in Oakland, several of the candidates he wanted for OC/DC were blocked, he had a helluva time assembling staff.[/quote]It used to be that way. But a couple years ago, they changed the rules same with the fact that coordinators are under the Rooney rule now.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:36 am
by Viper
[quote=chucker post_id=1272434]Chaisson might see his best opportunity to cement future value as being with the team where he finally fulfilled some of his potential. Especially with the same DC and Dline coach returning.[/quote]I’m hoping that’s the case but I never underestimate the power of $
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:36 am
by JRaider17
[quote=chucker post_id=1272434]Chaisson might see his best opportunity to cement future value as being with the team where he finally fulfilled some of his potential. Especially with the same DC and Dline coach returning.[/quote]Really hope we bring both Chaisson and Koonce back. I think Chaisson was just as impressive last year as Koonce's breakout year. So getting both back would really help continue to build up the line.
I also am just tired of finding solid to good productive players and letting them walk.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:24 am
by chucker
[quote=Ocoordinator post_id=1272437]I’m hoping that’s the case but I never underestimate the power of $[/quote]Absolutely. Is he smart enough to value a good situation? Other teams might also doubt his value after a pretty limited period of successful play so we might be willing to pay as much as anyone.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:28 am
by 16 to 88
[quote=chucker post_id=1272434]Chaisson might see his best opportunity to cement future value as being with the team where he finally fulfilled some of his potential. Especially with the same DC and Dline coach returning.[/quote]Was thinking the same.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:21 am
by The Duke
[quote=JRaider17 post_id=1272438]Really hope we bring both Chaisson and Koonce back. I think Chaisson was just as impressive last year as Koonce's breakout year. So getting both back would really help continue to build up the line.
I also am just tired of finding solid to good productive players and letting them walk.[/quote]I agree 100%. And I don't think Chaisson is talked about enough, in terms of being a priority to resign. He reminded me of Koonce and his breakout year, as well. And he's healthy, which is a good insurance policy for Koonce's return from rehabbing that knee injury.
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:27 am
by JRaider17
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:04 am
by Attyla
[quote=JRaider17 post_id=1272453]
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/ ... 3307240482[/quote]We're getting the band back together
Re: OC/DC/ST Coordinators
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:08 am
by VEfreak
[quote=JRaider17 post_id=1272453]
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/ ... 3307240482[/quote]Is this a new position within the Raiders organization, or are we replacing someone?