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OC/DC/ST Coordinators (Chip Kelly OC, Patrick Graham DC)
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:22 am
by haji81872
Do we need an OC/DC thread or do we just keep that talk in the Pete Carrol thread?
If we don't please delete this.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:43 am
by Sir Raider Duck, OMS
[quote=chucker post_id=1271941]Maybe they don't let Morton bring in a whole new offense. The head coach might not be the architect of the Lions' offense, but he's an offensive guy and knows what he's doing. It could be they're bringing in Morton as the guy to help with the offense they already have.[/quote]I checked again, and Morton and Johnson did spend one year together with the Lions (after Morton left us when Gruden walked the plank).
Still, it just seems a bit odd to bring in someone else to run a departed coach's offense. The only other time I remember this happening was Ernie Zampese replacing Norv Turner as Cowboys OC decades ago, and Turner had coached under Zampese, so it was a more obvious switchover.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:01 am
by chucker
[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1271943]I checked again, and Morton and Johnson did spend one year together with the Lions (after Morton left us when Gruden walked the plank).
Still, it just seems a bit odd to bring in someone else to run a departed coach's offense. The only other time I remember this happening was Ernie Zampese replacing Norv Turner as Cowboys OC decades ago, and Turner had coached under Zampese, so it was a more obvious switchover.[/quote]It's hard to doubt Dan Campbell at this point. He has earned the benefit of the doubt.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:24 am
by Sold My Soul
Morton was a great hire for the Lions.
Michigander going back home. Coached under Gruden/Carrol/Payton/ Kiffen/Harbaugh.
You don't coach along side those guys without picking up some great knowledge.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:36 am
by Xramfan
[quote=Sold My Soul post_id=1271950]Morton was a great hire for the Lions.
Michigander going back home. Coached under Gruden/Carrol/Payton/ Kiffen/Harbaugh.
You don't coach along side those guys without picking up some great knowledge.[/quote]Well 4 outta 5 ain’t bad ;)
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:46 pm
by Fade2SilverAndBlack
I've seen on-line from the "Insiders" the Raiders are trying to bring back Graham & Rob Leonard that's good...
Bevell, Shaw and Bo Hardegree are horrible choices for OC. Thats the most important hire or nothing will change...
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:37 pm
by Trainnvain
[quote=Xramfan post_id=1271951]Well 4 outta 5 ain’t bad ;)[/quote]Higher standards than Meatloaf
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:01 pm
by Be_Easy_25
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:08 pm
by DanKD
Im not as opposed to Bevell as some of you. To me hes not exciting but not terrible, firmly ok
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:19 pm
by BoKnows81
[quote=DanKD post_id=1272001]Im not as opposed to Bevell as some of you. To me hes not exciting but not terrible, firmly ok[/quote]That's not acceptable
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:23 pm
by Be_Easy_25
Did Pete fire Bevell in Seattle?
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:56 pm
by Corleone
[quote=Be_Easy_25 post_id=1272004]Did Pete fire Bevell in Seattle?[/quote]He dismissed him, so I guess that's the same thing.
Bevell is very uninspiring as an OC candidate, hope Pete is just doing him a favor and getting his name back out there. Feel like we can do a lot better at OC.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:05 pm
by Xramfan
Wasn’t Bevel considered a hit commodity HC candidate for a year or so way ba k?
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:07 pm
by haji81872
Bevell worked in Miami as passing game coordinator and Mike McDaniel was everyone's certified genius a year ago. Now of course he is an idiot who needs to be fired, but fans aren't fickle.
If he picked up some things while there he could still be a very good hire. MM is still a brilliant play designer and knows how to get WR's open.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:12 pm
by Corleone
[quote=Xramfan post_id=1272014]Wasn’t Bevel considered a hit commodity HC candidate for a year or so way ba k?[/quote]That was before he wore out his welcome in Seattle, then wasn’t very good in Detroit before really fizzling out as Urban Meyers OC in Jax. He’s a bottom of the barrel candidate now. Hope we look at Slowik.
Re: OC/DC
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:41 pm
by haji81872
[quote=Corleone post_id=1272016]That was before he wore out his welcome in Seattle, then wasn’t very good in Detroit before really fizzling out as Urban Meyers OC in Jax. He’s a bottom of the barrel candidate now. Hope we look at Slowik.[/quote]He coached at Detroit under Matt Patricia. One of the worst head coaches of all time.
2019 he had Matt Stafford for 8 games, the other 8 he had Jeff Driskel and David Blough. Stafford and the offense actually put up good numbers before he got hurt. Their best RB was Kerryon Johnson who played half the season and Bo Scarborough who played less than half the season. Golladay and Marvin Jones were the top two WR's. Stafford was throwing for over 300 yards a game with 19 TD and five interceptions.
2020 Covid season. They had 5 games where they put up over 30. One game they were shut out, but that game they were decimated by Covid on their offensive line.
Same with his stint in Jacksonville under Urban Meyer. That fiasco was nothing of his own doing and Urban called the plays while in Jacksonville.
Not saying he is the best choice, or who I would even want, but he would be a solid choice who has handled OC duties before vs. bringing in someone who has never called plays.