Jakobi Meyers Trade Rumors
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I think it's because we restructured his deal to spread the hit out over more years. 100% not sure of that though.raider_kin wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:28 pm So can our resident capologist* explain to me (I am totally ignorant on cap issues) why in h**l we would have dead cap in 2026 on a guy we trade THIS year?
*Think it's chucker
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Thanks Jeevo. Apologies if you are our capologist.Jeevo wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:32 pm I think it's because we restructured his deal to spread the hit out over more years. 100% not sure of that though.
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lol.Attyla wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:22 pm I was not bothering with context. You made a conditional conclusive statement and it does not pass on first inspection. Not trying to be argumentative, but the statement does not add the additional conditions you just mentioned. Even had it included the additions, the statement as written would be false.
Saying you wouldn't 'bother with context' is the whole problem. Look, we're just talking, not writing a math proof or a formal logic paper. Real conversations and statements aren't designed to be mathematically airtight on first glance - they depend on the context and shared understanding to actually make sense.
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no, if the context mattered, you would have referenced the context or included the context in your response. You make a conditional conclusive statement and it is false.NoClapsPlease wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:34 pm lol.
Saying you wouldn't 'bother with context' is the whole problem. Look, we're just talking, not writing a math proof or a formal logic paper. Real conversations and statements aren't designed to be mathematically airtight on first glance - they depend on the context and shared understanding to actually make sense.
Period.
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Did I not quote the comment I was responding to?Attyla wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:37 pm no, if the context mattered, you would have referenced the context or included the context in your response. You make a conditional conclusive statement and it is false.
Period.
Seems a bit redundant don’t you think?
Do you repeat everything that is said to you before you respond in a conversation?
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I can view a statement on its own merits. Yours did not make sense in that regard.NoClapsPlease wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:38 pm Did I not quote the comment I was responding to?
Seems a bit redundant don’t you think?
Do you repeat everything that is said to you before you respond in a conversation?
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I disagree - you cannot view anything, including a statement from me, on its own merits while simultaneously ignoring context - especially when you know the context will force you to reevaluate your original statement.Attyla wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:52 pm I can view a statement on its own merits. Yours did not make sense in that regard.
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There was no context to even take. You made a statement. It was false. End of story.NoClapsPlease wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:56 pm I disagree - you cannot view anything, including a statement from me, on its own merits while simultaneously ignoring context - especially when you know the context will force you to reevaluate your original statement.
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Excerpt from link in article
Shortly before final roster cuts, Jakobi Meyers requested a trade. No deal was worked out on that front, but not for a lack of interest on the part of suitors.
Vegas turned aside interest from at least one team on the trade front prior to the start of the regular season. That came as little surprise at the time, given the Raiders’ preference to keep Meyers in the fold and the request from the suitor to have Vegas retain some of his 2025 salary. As the November 4 trade deadline approaches, Meyers is once again a name to watch regarding a change of scenery.
Multiple teams have called the Raiders about Meyers within the past two weeks, Josina Anderson of The Exhibit reports. As was the case this summer, those suitors have been informed no trade is coming at this point. There is of course time for that stance to change on Vegas’ part, particularly if the 2-4 team is unable to keep pace in the AFC West over the coming weeks.
Another key element in this situation is Meyers’ status as a pending free agent. The 28-year-old made it clear this offseason he would welcome an extension, but the lack of an agreement on that front sparked his trade request. Meyers has since confirmed the Raiders did not entertain the idea of dealing away their top receiver, leading to the realization he would at least begin the campaign in Vegas. That has been the case, with Meyers posting 329 scoreless yards so far.
Vegas ranks 30th in the NFL in points, and dealing away Meyers – who totaled a career-high 1,027 yards last season – would hinder the team’s offense even further. At this point, though, it is also unclear if a new deal will be struck in this situation. Per Anderson, talks have continued to take place on a Meyers extension; she adds it appears team and player are “somewhat close” when it comes to value. Meyers is attached to a three-year, $33MM pact signed well before the current Vegas regime led by head coach Pete Carroll, general manager John Spytek and minority owner Tom Brady was in place.
Meyers sought a raise this offseason, and while his production to date has not set him up for a pact near the top of the receiver market he will need a new deal once the 2025 campaign ends. Any acquiring team would therefore be likely to explore an extension provided one is not worked out by the Raiders in the near future. Meyers is attached to a base salary of $10.5MM this season, a prorated portion of which would become the responsibility of his new team in the event of a trade.
The Steelers are once again a team to watch regarding an in-season wideout acquisition. Absent Malik Nabers, meanwhile, the Giants could also be in the market for a notable addition. One or both of those squads could show interest in Meyers – if they have not done so already – while the Raiders decide how they wish to proceed ahead of the deadline.
IOW, if a team needs Jacobi bad enough to give what the Raiders consider a fair price, he'll be playing for another team. Teams want him, but so far have not been willing to pay the value Raiders are seeking in return.
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I'm not giving up yet.... just being pragmatic.NoClapsPlease wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 4:44 am A win against the chiefs changes this
So I wouldn’t give up on the season this quickly.
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https://overthecap.com/player/jakobi-meyers/8083raider_kin wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:28 pm So can our resident capologist* explain to me (I am totally ignorant on cap issues) why in h**l we would have dead cap in 2026 on a guy we trade THIS year?
*Think it's chucker
Void years were put into his contract for some reason.
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Thanks Rich, this sh*t is just witchcraft to my tiny brain.rich72 wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:35 pm https://overthecap.com/player/jakobi-meyers/8083
Void years were put into his contract for some reason.
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Actually, if your statement, which was a conditional conclusive statement, does not put the contextually relevant portion into either the condition or the resulting conclusion into it, it can and should stand on its own merits. You did not do so.NoClapsPlease wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:56 pm I disagree - you cannot view anything, including a statement from me, on its own merits while simultaneously ignoring context - especially when you know the context will force you to reevaluate your original statement.
I most certainly can view that post on its own merits without any context because you did not even attempt to demonstrate any context in your response
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Man please.Attyla wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:04 pm Actually, if your statement, which was a conditional conclusive statement, does not put the contextually relevant portion into either the condition or the resulting conclusion into it, it can and should stand on its own merits. You did not do so.
I most certainly can view that post on its own merits without any context because you did not even attempt to demonstrate any context in your response
I'm not here for a philosophy class. Forget the sentence structure. We're talking football, specifically about whether receivers can actually get open.
The whole context we were operating under was that Meyers needs a perfect, tight-window throw just to even get a target in the first place.
You're pretending that established context doesn't exist just to make my argument sound weak. That's not the debate. It’s you reaching and reaching HARD I might add.
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All the losing is really taking a toll.
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