Raiders transaction thread
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HesterLayes
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Raiders transaction thread
If this isn't ok,please remove. would be nice to have just our moves so it's easier to keep track of. please and thank you.
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DanKD
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[quote=Nor_Cal_Raider post_id=1283569]Wasn't his visit yesterday? Are there any reports of how it went?[/quote]I doubt the Raiders will be revealing anything of substance and accuracy in the predraft process on specific players
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rich72
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[quote=rcraider post_id=1283257]I liked Jack Jones, he brought some swagger and made some big time plays, I‘m guessing there is some behind the scenes stuff that had them moving on from him, or maybe he asked to be traded or released.[/quote] He had a Raiders attitude, so he wouldnt fit into our fruity defense, I guess. The problem with our defense isnt that we had 1 guy playing like Jack Jones, the problem is that we only had 1 guy playing like Jack Jones.
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FLORIDARAYDAH
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[quote=rich72 post_id=1283603] He had a Raiders attitude, so he wouldnt fit into our fruity defense, I guess. The problem with our defense isnt that we had 1 guy playing like Jack Jones, the problem is that we only had 1 guy playing like Jack Jones.[/quote]What Raider attitude? Won't tackle won't hit. Only give any effort when you feel like it
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rich72
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1283604]What Raider attitude? Won't tackle won't hit. Only give any effort when you feel like it[/quote] Tell me when he picked off mahomes and mad dogged him while he was running in for a touchdown wasnt an old school Raiders play.
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Dr Death
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[quote=rich72 post_id=1283603] He had a Raiders attitude, so he wouldnt fit into our fruity defense, I guess. The problem with our defense isnt that we had 1 guy playing like Jack Jones, the problem is that we only had 1 guy playing like Jack Jones.[/quote]So...... you don't think Maxx has a Raiders attitude or swagger? I liked Jones too, but he made the business decision. Sometimes, things don't pay off.
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FLORIDARAYDAH
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[quote=rich72 post_id=1283607] Tell me when he picked off mahomes and mad dogged him while he was running in for a touchdown wasnt an old school Raiders play.[/quote]So he made a great play a few years ago and that makes up for all the times he refused to tackle or even try on a play no matter what the circumstance? He had a few great plays but mostly only tried when he wanted. Doesn't scream Legion of Boom or Raider attitude to me. And that was with his personal babysitter AP on board
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raidersince63
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1283618]So he made a great play a few years ago and that makes up for all the times he refused to tackle or even try on a play no matter what the circumstance? He had a few great plays but mostly only tried when he wanted. Doesn't scream Legion of Boom or Raider attitude to me. And that was with his personal babysitter AP on board[/quote]^^^This. Jones made a couple plays early on but then became a liability by taking too many risks during coverage and often getting burned...and when it comes to tackling, "he's not a hitter, he's a grabber".
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Attyla
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1283604]What Raider attitude? Won't tackle won't hit. Only give any effort when you feel like it[/quote]The new Raider Way?
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RI RAIDER
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1283618]So he made a great play a few years ago and that makes up for all the times he refused to tackle or even try on a play no matter what the circumstance? He had a few great plays but mostly only tried when he wanted. Doesn't scream Legion of Boom or Raider attitude to me. And that was with his personal babysitter AP on board[/quote] Bingo. He blows and its addition by subtraction. He made a few big plays, but overall he sucked (#'s do not lie). Our secondary is bad with many question marks. We will be in big trouble if we do not rectify it. We have to go up against arguably the best QB's and coaches in the league. This is a recipe for disaster.
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Tatum
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1283618]So he made a great play a few years ago and that makes up for all the times he refused to tackle or even try on a play no matter what the circumstance? He had a few great plays but mostly only tried when he wanted. Doesn't scream Legion of Boom or Raider attitude to me. And that was with his personal babysitter AP on board[/quote]Your post is 100% right and 100% wrong. All depends on the context.
Context of what's best for the team? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for what's best for the team.
Context of taking plays off and not having his head in the game? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for him acting and playing like a spoiled 3 yr old.
Context of making a memorable RAiDER play no matter what the circumstance? I agree 100%, his one great play, may not last a lifetime, but the play still lives on.
IF he ever grows up I'll be a fan of his.
I don't think he is capable of growing up.
He's a one hit wonder. Loved the play, love him. Turn the page. Next man up.
Context of what's best for the team? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for what's best for the team.
Context of taking plays off and not having his head in the game? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for him acting and playing like a spoiled 3 yr old.
Context of making a memorable RAiDER play no matter what the circumstance? I agree 100%, his one great play, may not last a lifetime, but the play still lives on.
IF he ever grows up I'll be a fan of his.
I don't think he is capable of growing up.
He's a one hit wonder. Loved the play, love him. Turn the page. Next man up.
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rich72
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[quote=Tatum post_id=1283630]Your post is 100% right and 100% wrong. All depends on the context.
Context of what's best for the team? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for what's best for the team.
Context of taking plays off and not having his head in the game? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for him acting and playing like a spoiled 3 yr old.
Context of making a memorable RAiDER play no matter what the circumstance? I agree 100%, his one great play, may not last a lifetime, but the play still lives on.
IF he ever grows up I'll be a fan of his.
I don't think he is capable of growing up.
He's a one hit wonder. Loved the play, love him. Turn the page. Next man up.[/quote]https://tenor.com/view/las-vegas-raider ... 7894233030
Context of what's best for the team? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for what's best for the team.
Context of taking plays off and not having his head in the game? Get rid of him, I agree 100%, one great play doesn't make up for him acting and playing like a spoiled 3 yr old.
Context of making a memorable RAiDER play no matter what the circumstance? I agree 100%, his one great play, may not last a lifetime, but the play still lives on.
IF he ever grows up I'll be a fan of his.
I don't think he is capable of growing up.
He's a one hit wonder. Loved the play, love him. Turn the page. Next man up.[/quote]https://tenor.com/view/las-vegas-raider ... 7894233030
[quote=rich72 post_id=1283648]https://tenor.com/view/las-vegas-raider ... 7894233030[/quote]That's one "pay back" I hope we don't have to pony up for.
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Sold My Soul
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Please make it so.
One Veteran Each NFL Team Could Trade:
Las Vegas Raiders: DE Tyree Wilson
Potential Fits: Tennessee Titans, New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles
When a team hires a new coach and general manager duo, disappointing former first-round picks are often the most endangered players. Pete Carroll and John Spytek are unlikely to have any loyalty to players picked by Tom Telesco or Dave Ziegler, as they’ll want to establish a cohesive identity after years of dysfunction.
That leaves players like Tyree Wilson as clear trade possibilities. Wilson still has two years left on his rookie deal, but he hasn’t made much progress since being drafted No. 7 overall in 2023. He has eight sacks in two years and couldn’t take advantage of numerous injuries at edge rusher in 2024 to earn a larger role. After playing 28 snaps per game as a rookie, that only crawled up to 31 snaps per game last year.
Ziegler was the Raiders’ GM when Wilson was drafted and he’s now the Titans’ assistant GM, and Tennessee certainly needs more edge rusher help. Similarly, his first head coach was Josh McDaniels, who is back in New England for a third stint with a Patriots team that has needs almost everywhere. The Eagles don’t have a coaching connection to Wilson but have a habit of taking fliers on high draft picks who busted elsewhere and wouldn’t need Wilson to play a major role if he doesn’t hit.
One Veteran Each NFL Team Could Trade:
Las Vegas Raiders: DE Tyree Wilson
Potential Fits: Tennessee Titans, New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles
When a team hires a new coach and general manager duo, disappointing former first-round picks are often the most endangered players. Pete Carroll and John Spytek are unlikely to have any loyalty to players picked by Tom Telesco or Dave Ziegler, as they’ll want to establish a cohesive identity after years of dysfunction.
That leaves players like Tyree Wilson as clear trade possibilities. Wilson still has two years left on his rookie deal, but he hasn’t made much progress since being drafted No. 7 overall in 2023. He has eight sacks in two years and couldn’t take advantage of numerous injuries at edge rusher in 2024 to earn a larger role. After playing 28 snaps per game as a rookie, that only crawled up to 31 snaps per game last year.
Ziegler was the Raiders’ GM when Wilson was drafted and he’s now the Titans’ assistant GM, and Tennessee certainly needs more edge rusher help. Similarly, his first head coach was Josh McDaniels, who is back in New England for a third stint with a Patriots team that has needs almost everywhere. The Eagles don’t have a coaching connection to Wilson but have a habit of taking fliers on high draft picks who busted elsewhere and wouldn’t need Wilson to play a major role if he doesn’t hit.