Maxx Crosby is Elite (update March 5 - Maxx signs 3 year extension)

[Be_Easy_25]

Argue with your mom.

[Dr Death]

[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1277719]Spytek's doing our drafting now and Carroll has assembled an excellent staff. I'm not worried.[/quote]I'm not worried, but I'm not convinced either....yet.

[chucker]

[quote=Dr Death post_id=1277721]I'm not worried, but I'm not convinced either....yet.[/quote]Which is exactly where you should be.

[RaidersFan]

[quote=MexicanHulk post_id=1277442]Did you forget to put this shit in blue??? No tha fark Jefferson is NOT worth more than Mad Maxx. A WR? Over an elite, best DE in the league type? Yeah, keep smoking[/quote]
A wide receiver is worth more than a defensive end, if Raiders have crappy wide receivers, you are going to be bitching and wishing that Raiders have good wide receivers

[Dr Death]

[quote=RaidersFan post_id=1277733]
A wide receiver is worth more than a defensive end, if Raiders have crappy wide receivers, you are going to be bitching and wishing that Raiders have good wide receivers[/quote]Well.... short answer to that is....... Nope.

[GUYDON]

I really thought the raiders would find a way to back load Maxx's contract so we would pay less this year, but his cap number this year is 38mil. Im really surprised, I thought he would be around a 20mil cap hit this year then it would go up sharply after that.
Oh well not my cap. I just hope he plays every game this year.

[SkullCrusher]

[quote=RaidersFan post_id=1277733]
A wide receiver is worth more than a defensive end, if Raiders have crappy wide receivers, you are going to be bitching and wishing that Raiders have good wide receivers[/quote][quote=Dr Death post_id=1277737]Well.... short answer to that is....... Nope.[/quote]Wr's are super important, but there are many solid WR's if given chances then there are good DE's given chances.

[Toast]

[quote=chucker post_id=1277644]Most contracts these days have provisions already that allow a team to restructure them without player approval - a simple conversion of salary to signing bonus for example. That doesn't mean the player gets the money sooner though, many signing bonuses have a schedule of payment that stretches out through the season.[/quote]Finite economics has always fascinated me. It's amazing what teams can to do to wring the most out of the salary cap.

[rich72]

I still dont get why we paid him a record setting amount, he isnt the best in the league by a fair margin. He is probably about 6th or 7th.

[chucker]

[quote=GUYDON post_id=1277743]I really thought the raiders would find a way to back load Maxx's contract so we would pay less this year, but his cap number this year is 38mil. Im really surprised, I thought he would be around a 20mil cap hit this year then it would go up sharply after that.
Oh well not my cap. I just hope he plays every game this year.[/quote]Don't worry about the cap number this year. They can reduce that number with a stroke of a pen, it's already built in as an option. The best way to build a contract is with higher early cap hits because there are restructure provisions to defer that cap hit at a later date if you want. In the interim, it's better for your negotiating position with players and agents if you don't have massive cap space showing on the books.

[SkullCrusher]

[quote=GUYDON post_id=1277743]I really thought the raiders would find a way to back load Maxx's contract so we would pay less this year, but his cap number this year is 38mil. Im really surprised, I thought he would be around a 20mil cap hit this year then it would go up sharply after that.
Oh well not my cap. I just hope he plays every game this year.[/quote][quote=chucker post_id=1277780]Don't worry about the cap number this year. They can reduce that number with a stroke of a pen, it's already built in as an option. The best way to build a contract is with higher early cap hits because there are restructure provisions to defer that cap hit at a later date if you want. In the interim, it's better for your negotiating position with players and agents if you don't have massive cap space showing on the books.[/quote]Yeah it is an interesting contract. But Maxx is a top D player if not at the tip-top, so he's going to be up there. You can see where this is going and time has shown with top QB's the sooner you sign them the sooner you save in future dollars. Maxx's contract was extension-like as well. In the later years it will be much more of a bargain vs other top defenders.

[chucker]

[quote=SkullCrusher post_id=1277881]Yeah it is an interesting contract. But Maxx is a top D player if not at the tip-top, so he's going to be up there. You can see where this is going and time has shown with top QB's the sooner you sign them the sooner you save in future dollars. Maxx's contract was extension-like as well. In the later years it will be much more of a bargain vs other top defenders.[/quote]Hopefully he plays well enough to be complaining about being underpaid a few years from now. That's a good problem. The reality is that he won't be the highest paid non-QB for very long - good chance it's less than a week.

[haji81872]

We have a bunch of cap space this year, so this is a good year to have Maxx's large cap number. We will redo his contract probably twice and add void years to bring the number down.

Plus there are a number of elite pass rushers coming up for contract extensions. This number will be about 5th or 6th in a matter of moments. Hutchinson, Watt, Garrett will be making more pretty soon. I think it is good we got it done early because those three will want more, just like Maxx would have if he signed later.

[chucker]

[quote=haji81872 post_id=1277886]We have a bunch of cap space this year, so this is a good year to have Maxx's large cap number. We will redo his contract probably twice and add void years to bring the number down.

Plus there are a number of elite pass rushers coming up for contract extensions. This number will be about 5th or 6th in a matter of moments. Hutchinson, Watt, Garrett will be making more pretty soon. I think it is good we got it done early because those three will want more, just like Maxx would have if he signed later.[/quote]Being first to sign is a win for the team for sure. It also helps with negotiations with free agents, as the media has loved to talk about where Maxx could get traded and if we traded our best player then there's no way to pretend it's not a tear down this year.

[Sold My Soul]

According to NFL insider Mike Florio, it is very simple proposition. Parsons gets more money and noses out Crosby for a record-breaking deal. "A five-year, $168 million contract would create a new-money average of $36 million, at an actual payout of $33.6 million annually," Florio said. "Give Micah $40 million to sign. Add a $1.17 million base salary for 2025. For 2026, give him a fully-guaranteed $35 million salary with the right to convert it to a signing bonus. The 2027 salary would be $33 million, guaranteed for injury and fully guaranteed in March 2026. That's a $109.17 million practical guarantee. Throw in a pair of $29.415 million non-guaranteed base salaries on the back end, and that's it." That's a fancy pile of numbers. But what if Micah - despite his suggestion that he'll take less than market value - doesn't want $36 million APY? Why shouldn't Micah ask for $40 million per year?


Name your price Micah, make Jerry the douche pay.

[GUYDON]

Maxx is the highest paid non-qb in history.... *3 days later* Myles Garrett is the highest pain non-qb in history.

LOL that didn't last long.